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Lantern Dude's avatar

I am glad you've re-established a philosophy gymnasium.

It seems to me that agnosticism and its relationship to what I understand is 'the scientific method' is the requirement of 'verifiability' - the possibilty of repeating an experiment in order to confirm the result. If that is an accurate assessment then perhaps 'doubt' provides the initial impulse to investigate rather than merely accept an issue or phenomenon.

Personally I think the format, which connects to current realities, is a winner.

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With reference to the term "nihilism" I was motivated to look up a precise definition of that (I have several books on the subject which I haven't read yet.) There is no precise definition - it's all one philosopher's opinion after another. As the saying goes, "Everyone has an opinion. Everyone has an asshole. They are both equally important." (Although, of course, some assholes are more important than others to any particular person. LOL)

The problem I have with philosophers is that almost literally nothing in their statements refers to physical reality. It's all abstract concepts that rest on a chain of abstract concepts, none of which can be identified in the real world with precision the same way a concept such as "chair" can be defined, still less a concept such as a wavelength of light. They are all, as Max Stirner called them, "spooks in the head."

Epistemology is one of the worst areas, although it's hard to distinguish it from most of the others. Concepts such as "truth" have literally zero meaning outside of someone's head.

My favorite reference is Superman's "Truth, justice and the American Way". The first two are meaningless and the latter can only be an opinion, probably best operationally described as "get yours by any means necessary."

Which renders all of them utterly useless to me. I don't "believe" anything. I RECOGNIZE scientific facts (to the limits that science can determine them), and human behavior and the consequences of human behavior as illustrated by one's life experiences and more importantly the life experiences of everyone else over human history. Reasoning from that basis is far more productive.

I am an atheist, not an agnostic, because I recognize three things: 1) the same argument that can be made for God can be made for the "Flying Sphaghetti Monster" (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flying_Spaghetti_Monster), and 2) we know where religious belief comes from, both psychologically and historically, and 3) there is zero physical evidence in reality for any deity.

As for general agnosticism, this is utterly pointless as are most of the "principles of living" philosophers like to talk about. Only an idiot would be "agnostic" about everything. Sticking a gun up his nose would immediately bring reality to his attention.

If you're going to try with this series of articles to establish some basis for either the Covid conspiracy theorists, the "stolen 2020 election" conspiracy theorists, or the climate change conspiracy theorists, I'm basically going to ignore them. I'll consider any conspiracy theory (I have 9GB of ebooks on conspiracy theorists on my hard drive) but these I've already dismissed as bullshit dredged up by "conservatives" who are probably the least epistemologically sophisticated people on the planet.

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