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arthur brogard's avatar

I've watched it all and what stands out to me is Trump's apparent sincerity in wanting peace. I don't trust him. I hate his apparent total dedication to Israel and murder. But in regard to Ukraine he perhaps is genuine. In which case there will be peace. For Kiev Ukraine is fairly immaterial. It has always been America was making the war. If Europe tries to step in and replace America as motivator and sustainer I think they'll destroy themselves.

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Kumi0824's avatar

Zelensky told many lies during the meeting, and I found it disgusting as well.

Here is a list of his lies that I noticed in the video, at least.

Lie: Ukrainian POWs are tortured by Russians.

Fact: Ukrainian POWs are treated fairly.

Lie: Russian forces kidnapped Ukrainian children.

Fact: Russian forces evacuated children who had become orphans or had been separated from their parents near the battlefield.

Lie: The Russian government repeatedly violated the Minsk Accord.

Fact: Ukrainian forces and far-right nationalists have continued bombarding Donbass. Their violations of the Minsk Accord were recorded by the OSCE.

Lie: The Russian government did not fulfill its obligation to exchange POWs.

Fact: The Russian government has been following the rules for POW exchanges, and the exact same number of POWs held by Ukrainian forces has been exchanged.

However, the only instance in which Russian forces were unable to return Ukrainian POWs was when a Ukrainian Patriot missile shot down a Russian plane on January 24, 2024.

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